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Post by Josh18 on Oct 7, 2004 18:59:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the input everybody. Hi Paul, same Josh that got the barber from the San Felipe site. I really appreciate input from both sides as this will be the first year I will be voting.
Thanks, Josh
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Post by Rudy on Oct 7, 2004 22:29:56 GMT -5
Well Josh, Remember this. Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often.... ...and for the same reason. ;D
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Post by OT on Oct 8, 2004 1:41:12 GMT -5
Hi Rudy,
I couldn't have said it better,
;DT
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Post by jim on Oct 12, 2004 18:18:25 GMT -5
Caps are mine. 1 Cor 1:18
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish FOOLISHNESS, but unto us who are saved IT IS THE POWER OF GOD
For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,and will bring to nuthing the understanding of the prudent.
vr.21 For after that, in the wisdom of God, the world BY WISDOM KNEW NOT GOD, IT PLEASED GOD BY THE FOOLISHNESS OF PREACHING TO SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE.
2 Cor. 11:14 & 15
And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. THEREFORE, it is no great thing if HIS MINISTERS ALSO be transformed AS THE MINISTERS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, whose end shall be according to their work's.
.............jim
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Post by gerber on Oct 14, 2004 13:20:56 GMT -5
Against my better judgement, I've decided to weigh in. I actually have a master's degree in theology and biblical studies and work for a seminary here in So Cal. I learned long ago to stay out of religious arguments As to your political questions, Josh, let me preface my remarks by stating my firm belief that the microscopic nature of the media and sheer informational overload have really ruined politics (not that it was ever in great shape to begin with). One can't be in the public eye now and not have every burp, pimple, and utterance magnified and soundbyted through several permutations. I think this atmosphere makes it virtually impossible (at least through media channels) to engage in the lengthy analysis and dialogue necessary to really get educated about the issues at hand. Politicians all deal with this environment by saying as little as possible that can be misconstrued or held against them at a later date, thus much of what they have to say publicly isn't necessarily all that weighty, correct, true, or fully nuanced. I'm not sure this is entirely their fault; rather it seems to just be a product of the day we live in. Which is why I believe politics is generally much less interesting than it ought to be. Well, that stated: 1. Most of my information comes from the internet, esp. google news, BBC, Sydney Morning Herald, and Drudge, just to give a little diversity to my sources. Next comes radio. I don't bother with newspapers and especially TV news which I really have to put into the category of entertainment these days (my gut feeling is that journalism is struggling under the weighty egos and $$ of television). 2. The most important issues for me are national security, the economy, education, health care, and immigration. I take a more conservative approach to most of these issues and firmly believe that America shouldn't be in the business of developing itself into a nanny state through which personal responsibility, opportunity, and liberties are essentially abdicated to an impersonal beauracracy that is impersonal, uncaring, and which will ultimately come to exist for its own sake. Rather, I would like to see our govt. reward us for giving to charity (thus growing the non-profit sector), reward the taking of risks (which seems to inevitably lead to more opportunities), and take a self-limiting understanding of its reach and responsibilities (something that will not happen with either party). 3. The opposition cuts against the grain of my most basic worldview and I could not, in good conscience, vote in this direction. However, this doesn't denote a great enthusiasm for either party, nor do I consider myself rigidly committed to any party. For all the faults of the candidate, I will vote Republican in this election, but would consider voting for a Democrat if they could put forth a serious candidate, one whose views were closer to my own, and who demonstrated personal attributes that were at least somewhat likeable. I'm just personally very perplexed at how Kerry is the best that the Dems had to offer us (of course, I recognize exactly the same could be said of the Republicans, which, in a nutshell, is why I've grown to hate politics) HH, Dan
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Post by jim on Oct 14, 2004 13:44:40 GMT -5
Well said Dan, next election I'm casting my vote for you...... ..jim
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