whispers and ID

[dang]

When you guys with a ID unit hear a deep coin's "whisper" does the meter on your unit predict correctly? In other words if I hear a weak signal but my meter stays at 0 or hardly moves at all, Should I just assume its a tiny chunk of foil? Or perhaps its a dime really deep? Should the detector's ID know it's a dime even if its very deep?

[Trogdor]

I've found that the meter can give incorrect readings, especially in very mineralized soil. And I'm sure it will vary between different detectors and different manufacturers. But when in doubt, dig! The worst that can happen is that you will learn something Good luck and HH.

[zman]

some signals will increase when you '"work" the target, sweep it in different directions and see if the signal increases, scrub the ground with the coil, allot of times when you do get a weak signal the meter will be all over the place ,just pay attention to the readings each time it hits, the reading that shows up most will usually be the targets i.d., i say usually!, most good targets will want to make your detector ring even at the maximum depth, its up to you to work that target till it speaks, i try not to waste time in target rich areas on maybe signals, if it doesnt talk then move on , but thats not to say it was definetly junk, once in a while they arent, but most of the time they are.,good luck

[bluefoot]

If it sounds good dig it. If it sounds bad dig it.
HH

[sjbrian]

if i'm working a known old area, i dig everything, deep or not.

most of time a deep tone should have a repeatable number. a deep penny at 5+ on most whites detectors should have a repeatable 75 or higher. sometimes though, a good deep coin may read lower. deep nickels almost always have strange numbers. i think the only way your gonna "get it" is by experience.

remember though, not all old coins will be deep. i detected many 1850's coins at 1inch.

[JimClick]

Hi Dang,
You've got some good advice here. I agree with everyone. I, personally don't waste too much time chasing iffy signals when there are a lot of targets in the manicured lawn area of a park. But give me a dirt hillside, and I will dig everything that beeps, especially in a really old area. Needless to say, I find much better things in dirt hillsides. By digging all when I can, I know what is most likely a good signal, and what isn't, which helps me be more selective when I want to be kind to a lawn. JimClick
ps. Nightray does chase iffy lawn signals and is awesome at digging deep turf silver.

[sjbrian]

mmmmm ddiiiirrrt. all dirt has been my preference for the last 8 years. i also like to be able to rip through dirt or wild grass, with little care for neatness. you still have to fill the hole though. this is why demo's, hillsides, forgotten camp sites, forests etc appeal to me.

i used dug for deep turf silvers for years. found many dimes at 8in. in a well cared for area, neatness is king. you could literally spend forever trying to retrieve a barber at 8 inches down, while the home owner stands over you.

[NightRay]

Hi Dang

Ran across this thread and thought I would respond. It really depends on what type of machine your using. Most siganals from the 5-8 inch level should be fairly stable but will produce a weak or faint signal. When coins get past the 8 inch level things start to change as far as target I.D. goes. Signals in the 8 to 10+ range will tend to bounce between iron and high coin. These signals are very unpredictable and you really need a plugger (and some soft ground) to get these. The trick for deep coin hunting is to go very slow and when in doubt let your trowl do the discriminating. The 4 way repeater rule doesn't always apply when the coins get deeper than 7 inches. Keep at it as most of the older coins are usualy deeper. If you have any questions please feel free to e-mail me.

HH NightRay

[mayumi12]

when I go over a whisper with my explorer. i sometimes can solidify the signal by slowly and repeatedly swinging the coil over the target.

this is where digital ID becomes very useful. as i swing the coil in the manner described above, i will watch the meters closely while the numbers jump around. if it locks on to a combination that I know is good or approximate to it, I DIG!

hope that helps.

JT

[BillNEWAST]

Dang, I have had similar experience to NightRay. This is why I have NOT gone to the newer fangled Target ID system. If you don't know what that target is by a VISUAL ID then you may be missing a VERY VALUABLE find. I still remember going to the Park with Lucy Bowen here in Spokane and having her go 20' in 2 hours and recover OLD Stuff at depths I thought I couldn't get with my Gold Stinger. But she would show me that it could get the same OLD Stuff IF I would SLOW down and dig everything. I know that this is CONTRARY to what the Detector Manufactures Want you to Beleive, BUT when you go to a park and or Place that has been HIT Hard for the last 40+ years by Every known type and kind of detector then you will only have the DEEP OLD Stuff left as a general rule. And I know that is NOT always true either as evidenced by my finding a 1937 Merc 1/2" down at a place where they PILE SNOW in the winter. I can only speculate on why and how that chunk of silver stayed there throughout all these years, OR it could have been LOST the last couple of winters when someone/kid was taking it to the Pawn Shop and it got SCHOOPED UP and Deposited There. I just don't know but IT'S in my COLLECTION Now and I'll be going to that place again because A lady got mad at her husband and threw out her $5000.00 Dimond ring and it got Schoopied up and deposited there somewhere and is still there because they didn't find it, as per the City Equipment employie who is a friend of mine. OH by the way nobody hunts these areas because of "TOO MUCH TRASH" or so they tell me anyway.
Hope this gives you newbies some IDEAS. hehehehe$$$
Sincerely
Bill Adams
Have a Nice Day and God Bless!

[Martin and Athena]

You got a bunch of good advice already.
I found that experience is a good helper. Duh.....
I mean after a while you get a gut's feeling about a target. I dug silver which read (and sounded) like square pull tabs on my Explorer. But something told me that there is something weird about the target.
Usually it's close by trash which really throws off the machine's responses.
Basically almost no deep targets read like textbook.
This morning I dug a Mercury Dime which sounded nice in a small swing 2 way wiggle. When I tried a 90 degree sweep the machine totally nulled out. But I knew the good tone I got was not from iron so I dug.
Got that marc and then right next to it a chunk of rusted iron.
I sometimes dig targets (and find deep coins) when I am not even sure if there is a target at all.
I know it sounds really like something you've heard a million times. And it's hard to accept it, but experience is really the best helper when it comes to deep iffy targets.
HH and good luck.
Martin

[dang]

Holy s__t! I forgot I even posted this thread untill i was at the park wondering about the samething. I have'nt foun any deep coins yet but....Im finding an "ear" for those whispers. and sooner or later....WTG Dang!